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Please send us your thoughts/suggestions for improvement.  Also, feel free to send in comments regarding the requests below.

2010 Requests (see '09 series feedback & comments here):

1. Start the Senior A class behind the XC2 Expert Lites class (ahead of Novice classes).
2. Add pit bike race between kids and adult race - 15 min. or so on kid's course.
3. Add an ATV class.
4. Summer break unique event.
5. Can't use DQ as one of the two drops.
6. Move the Beginners to the very back of the starting lineup.
7. Split the "motos" up more to help with traffic concerns.  Possibly split into Experts, Novice, and Senior A in one moto...the rest of the main event classes in another.

8. Add 30+ classes to split up the Beginner classes and help with sandbagging.
9. Riders should be moved up by merit and results / not voluntarily.
10. Don't let someone younger than 14 ride in the Junior class.
11. Have the adults start at 8am in the hot months, youth & women start afterward.
12. Remove the optional extreme sections.
13. From the AR staff - reduce the work requirement for bonus point workers to race weekend only...instead of race weekend AND a previous work weekend.  Helping out previous weekend(s) and/or the Fridays of race weekend would be much appreciated but not mandatory.
14. Allow 250 2-strokes in the Lites classes.

Responses:

 

#1, Start the Senior A class behind XC2 / in front of Novice classes:

-Last season when the Senior class took off we would catch up to the other riders as soon as we hit the woods. Then we would spend most of the first lap trying to get around the slower riders.

-I know that I pass the majority of the Novice riders in the first 1st or 2nd laps while it is pretty busy and it makes for some hairy moves. This is just food for thought and I can live with it either way. I am just looking out for each other here.

-Logic tells me a rider that signs up A class - Senior or not should be starting ahead of the Novice riders.  Starting behind the Novice cost the A riders valuable time in the first 2 laps and ruins their chance for a great overall finish.
-I gree with starting senior A riders ahead of Novice

 

#2 Add pit bike class:
-oh yeh!

-I like the idea of a pit bike race.  It may encourage more people to arrive early and get signed up.  More riders are playing with pit bikes lately.  It could be fun.
-Yep, do it!
-have two different pit bike classes - 12" rear wheel and 10" rear wheel. (some 110's have big bore kits, etc. - easier go by wheel size)

 

#3 Add ATV class:

-This would help diversify the series and bring a larger audience to the events. It will also open the series to more sponsors since there are a good bit of Louisiana ATV OEM MFGs such as Xtreme Products, Gorilla Axle, High lifter, and Submarine Snorkels just to name a few. Some of these companies have teams with factory backing. I think adding ATVs and getting some of these local Aftermarket OEM teams could elevate the status of the LACC series.

-Just my two cents, but after riding Round 1 at Cypress Creek I believe if ATV’s were allowed to run the same course before the bikes it would have been a lot worse in the number of mud bogs and near impassable crossings.
-I don't agree with an ATV class suggestion. There are places for ATVs to race. Keep the LACC series motorcycles only.
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Do NOT allow ATV racing at the LACC.  They would really screw up all the lines and make the race course beat up.

 

#4 Summer break unique event:

-During the summer break it would be cool if there was a 4-6 hour race or a 100 mile event that could be done as an Ironman or buddy race. It would not count towards overall points, it would be a just for the hell of it.  Since it would be in the summer call it the "Hotter than Heck 100" or something along those lines.
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Summer break unique event is an ok idea.

#5 Can't use DQ as a drop:

-If a rider is disqualified due to cutting he/she shouldn't be able to use that as one of the two drops.

-DQ should never be covered by a drop.  Should be a penalty for breaking rules.  Whether cutting the course or any other violation.  If covered it teaches riders to cheat until they get caught.  Then just a drop & no harm is done to your chances for a series championship.
-DQ shouldn't be covered by a drop if the rider was cheating, bottom line.



#6 Move the Beginners to the back of the starting lineup:

-I agree!
-I don't agree with this, I think the Beginners should stay where they are.  If you look at the top 3 guys in the class, they are finishing on average round 40th overall.  Moving them to the back would force them to push harder and possibly put themselves or other riders at risk during passing.

 

#7 Split the Main Event up into two motos - Experts, Novice classes, and Senior A  in one / the rest in another:

-I agree.

-Will put us leaving later in the afternoon on Sunday - just make the courses longer and/or longer offsets between classes.

-I like the split classes idea.  In addition to traffic control it would allow the riders to do some spectating.  I think it may work better if the kids, women's & Pit Bike classes could be run on Saturday afternoon.  Allowing more time to work with.  Also some riders may ride both days.
-Leave the moto arrangement as is, I.E. have everyone start together!


#8 Add 30+ classes:

-...most 30+ guys have racing experience or multiple years of riding experience with their buddies, but don't want to mix it up with the faster younger guys in the novice class (or faster classes) guys.  That leaves most of them to sign up in the Beginner class where they really don't BELONG because they have been riding for many years...would help with the overcrowding at the gate for the beginner classes which are always the largest classes. Guys were all the way to the fence in the beginner class...
-I would like a class between beg. & novice to split these big classes. Either a 30+ C or B class would be great for the older slower riders, that was mentioned don't want to race the younger crowd.
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Do not add 30+ classes, the current class structure is just fine the way it is.  Sandbaggers will always be in the beginner class, you can't stop them.


#9 Don't allow riders to voluntarily move up to a higher class - riders should be moved up by merit and results.

-not fair to riders in the classes behind who have to pass - also a safety concern.
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I disagree.  AMA has allowed voluntary advancement as long as I can remember, it just makes sense that faster riders be allowed to move themselves up to a suitable class...
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I think you should allow riders to voluntarily move up in class, especially if they are adamant about it.

#10 Don't allow a rider under 14 years old to ride in the Junior class.

-I agree!  This class is for riders between the ages of 14 and 16 so keep it that way.  I also think that it is not fair alowing kids from the kids vet class ride in the junior 14 to 16.
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agree

 

#11 Have the adults start at 8am in the hot months, youth & women start afterward.

-I know we have made good efforts to avoid the summer runs with the break but we still have races in June, August, and September even with the break.  I highly recommend that you move the starting times in June, August and September for the adult races to 8-am. (like enduros have done for 50 years) This would avoid the heat in these warm months and accomplish the very same thing. It would also allow the return trip home to begin earlier and avoid some returns well into late night.  Your northwest LA runs put us about 10-midnight getting home with some needing to work or go to school the next day. This would put the special classes that you normally run early starting after the adults finish at 9:30 at 10am.  About the same time they start now.
-Keep the adult start time at 11:00 all year.  I'd rather the adults riding around in the heat than the kids.  We still finish around 12:30-1:00, which is about when most enduros end anyway.
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agree!!

 

#12 Remove the optional extreme sections.

-For the same reasons described on the '09 feedback page (#18).
-leave them

 

#13 From the AR Staff: reduce the work requirements for bonus point workers.

---The purpose of making this change would be to increase the amount of helpers race weekend as the core staff can't be in multiple places at the same time during the event.
Mandatory for points: full day Saturday and Sunday of race weekend. 
"Requested": We'd appreciate help prior to and/or the Friday before the race but this won't be mandatory for points.

-I understand needing more help but most of the trail cutting is done prior to race weekend that's why you pick the venue closest to your location. Or offer full points for prior and race weekend and half points for race weekend only.

 

#14 Allow 250 2-strokes in the Lites classes.

-I disagree, a large percentage of XC1, Novice and Beginner riders are on 250 2-strokes, so it's obviously a competitive motorcycle against 450F's.  Allowing 250 2-strokes into the Lites classes would give a huge advantage to those riders, anyone on a 200 2-stroke or 250F would be giving up a lot against the 250 2-strokes.  If riders are choosing 250s to go against 450F's, then 250's definitely don't belong in the Lites classes.

 

 

 

 

See '09 series feedback & comments here.

 

 

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